February 14, 2008...10:17 am
Is that really Sharia law you are fighting? Is that how you want to fight it?
Michelle posts on the Valentine’s day controversies in some parts of the Muslim world and encourages us to “buy some red roses, candy, and a cheesy greeting card” in order to “strike a blow against sharia”
In Indonesia:
The Bukittinggi municipal administration has banned residents from celebrating Valentine’s Day, on Thursday, on the grounds the occasion is not in line with Minangkabau traditions or Islam…
Saudi Arabia’s religious police have banned red roses ahead of Valentine’s Day, forcing couples in the conservative Muslim nation to think of new ways to show their love…
And in Kuwait:
Islamist MPs said yesterday they will study the possibility of amending existing laws in a bid to ban the celebrations of “alien events” like the Valentine’s Day. Head of the Assembly committee monitoring practices alien to Kuwaiti society MP Waleed Al-Tabtabae said after the committee met government authorities that “we informed them we will come up with the necessary amendment”…
Anyways, I fail to see how this is related to religion. I mean, I understand how it is justified. They claim they are doing it in the name of Islam. But this is nothing more than an attempt to control people and control morality. The religious part is only for show…
But, since Michelle is suggesting that we celebrate Valentine’s day to “strike a blow against sharia”, then let me give you a few more:
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If you are a man, stop driving and let’s allow only women to drive. This will strike a blow against those Sharia people in Saudi Arabia
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Ensure Hillary Clinton is elected. In many countries where Islamic law is applied, women can’t get to the top. This would show them we mean business.
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Call your local TV station and tell them to play adult movies. Imagine how the people burning Valentine stuff would feel!
And finally…
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Let’s get those gay rights constitutionalized! Imagine how Ahmadinejad ‘there are no gays in Iran’ would react!!!
My guess is that Michelle’s post was more humorous and less serious. Yet, it creates a link that makes me queasy. Could we not define our actions in relation to sharia law? I am celebrating Valentine’s day because I want to. Not to strike a blow against sharia.
7 Comments
February 14, 2008 at 9:01 pm
myc, I do applaud your inclusion of the link — however, your reaction to it leads me to0 ask: did you fully read the article, or does your anti-reality shield automatically deploy when your world-view is challenged?
Boy, you sure know how to pick and choose what you want to respond to. The point of Michelle’s article was that there really is a determined effort on the part of the Religion of Perpetual Outrage to eliminate most of what YOU value. It is not ONLY an attempt to control people and control morality . . . and the religious part is NOT only for show . . . they want the world — all of the world to share in their 7th century arabic world-view.
To any one reading this comment — click mycowardice’s link to Michelle’s article and make up your own mind.
February 14, 2008 at 10:32 pm
I encourage all my readers to read the original post I refer to because, unless I copy paste everything, there is no way I can accurately capture everything that was said in there.
Most muslims don’t want all the world. I think they have enough day to day problems to worry about that controlling the whole world isn’t one of them. For example, take Iranians. Do you know any Iranian living in the States that are Muslim? Most likely they are not. Why? Cause they don’t care about religion. Go read reports on the youth population in Iran and see how many sign on to this ‘death to America’ slogan. Same goes for most other Muslim countries.
I dislike religion when mixed into politics. I hate it when we do it here, I hate it when they do it in Muslim countries, I hate it when they do it in Israel, etc.
I am sure you are about to tell me you already did what I am about to ask, but let me ask anyways: did you ever visit a muslim country to see how the people live, what their concerns are, etc.? I think you will find the same concerns we have here in America.
February 15, 2008 at 1:19 am
OK, I’ll take a stab at it — yes I do know Iranians who live here in the United States. They live here, primarily, for a couple of reasons: 1) They make a whole lotta dough here and 2) they aren’t Muslim and because they aren’t, they’ve faced REAL discrimination (ranging from silent glares to being spit at to lost jobs to attempted murder to being the lone member of the family to get out alive).
And you asked, “Do you know any Iranian living in the States that are Muslim?” No. And most of the Iranians don’t know of any, either.
February 15, 2008 at 9:23 am
I am not sure I follow you on the consequences of being Iranian and being Muslim, but the rest of your post is what I had in mind. They are here to make a good living, and they couldn’t care less about religion. Same in Iran. Honestly among all the middle eastern countries, Iran is not the one I would use as the ‘enemy’. I think Saudi Arabia is more the ‘enemy’ than is Iran. Most Iranians (the young ones at least) love the US, the freedom, going out, etc.
Plus, besides financing Iraq in the Iran/Iraq war (and getting rid of Mossadegh), Iran has little against the US. I think if we stopped scaring them (i.e. we are going to bomb you) and really started talking to them it would be easy to come to a decent agreement.
February 15, 2008 at 10:44 am
No, no, no, no no.
Your willingness. Nay, NEED. To see only what you want to see and hear only what you want to hear is astounding.
My point #2 explicitly said that the Iranians I know are here in the United States because they aren’t muslim. And because they’re not, here is no place in Iran for them.
I in no way implied that they are only here to get rich. They are here because, iunless you’re muslim, you’re an atheist and worthy of death.
I agree with you about Saudi Arabia — but face it, you only point out it’s threat ’cause their allied with the US (again, an alliance that worries me greatly). If the Saudi’s were to suddenly be truthful and publicly denounce the US and all it stands for, you and your fellows would cheer them on.
February 15, 2008 at 10:47 am
aaaaack!
Typo kind of changes the meaning of a sentence.
Shreds grammar, too.
meant to say “and because they’re not, there is no place”
I think that HERE is exactly the place for them.
February 15, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Are you saying there were Christians/Bahaii/Jews in Iran? Or simply had no religion? Anyways, the point with Iran is that religion is forced down the throats of everyone, but once Iranians leave, for whatever reason, most of them become non religious cause they couldn’t care less about religion…
I used Saudi Arabia because they are also a Muslim country in the region. I also picked them because the majority of the 9/11 hijacker came from them. Finally, because if you compare them to Iran, they are way more regressive plus they have more leverage than us than Iran.
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